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		<title>by: flora</title>
		<link>http://www.esnider.net/2005/09/11/intimidation/#comment-575</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That's very true!</description>
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		<title>by: Esther</title>
		<link>http://www.esnider.net/2005/09/11/intimidation/#comment-574</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dear Larry,

I wish my comment can reach you as it had been a few months since you posted your essay and feedback. Recently, I have been thinking on what reactions and attitude Christians should hold against intimidation. You highlighted that intimidation exists among couple, boss and even between brothers and sisters. I had read some bible study materials about handling intimidation. As expected, it teaches people to forgive as God holds justice. I agree with 1 Peter 2:15, it says, ‘It is God’s will that your good lives should silence those who make foolish accusations against you.’ However, I got some reservation in applying another verse which is also from 1 Peter, 2:19, ‘For God is pleased with you when, for the sake of your conscience, you patiently endure unfair treatment.’ This seems to apply particularly to situation when the unfair treatment happens from those in authorities, as 1 Peter 2:13 say, ‘For the Lord’s sake, accept all authority …and the officials he has appointed.’ I am not challenging the good teachings and intentions behind all those messages; however, I would like to discuss how Christians should respond when the intimidation is getting overwhelming and unlawful. Take an example, if a boss uses his authority to sexual harass his sub-ordinates, what should they react, assuming that they are Christians. Should they simply tolerate and keep silent? While thinking on this topic, I recall the story of Lincoln; he saw the injustice of the slavery system, so he spent lots of efforts to release them from their sufferings, if he kept quiet by showing respect to those in authorities, such historical redemption would never had happened. I am thinking if reporting intimidation that is already abusively overwhelming to the one higher in the hierarchy is against the teaching in the bible, could you share your view on it?

Moreover, regarding your views upon practising homosexual lifestyle, I am quite sad to know that a recent movie called xxx Mountain had won the best director award in Oscar. This triggered lots of praises, and surely promote the developing Gxx culture. Besides, I totally support your argument that one day they might regret their ‘choices’ if they die from AIDS. However, I do wonder if this high potential danger will stop them from practising that, lots of people know that smoking can cause lung cancer, but they don’t really care. Lastly, I am more concern about those that are bisexual, especially among Christians. In order to cover up their greed of having both sexual orientations, as it is normally not accepted in the Christian communities, a man will usually have a proper relationship or even a marriage with a girl. To me, that is the most selfish behaviour, as this will bring ‘unexpected’ punishment (AIDS) to the innocent, that do not made the same ‘choice’ as they did. In conclusion, I would expect those that cannot change their orientation for whatever reasons be at least honest. Don’t cheat! Don’t let those truly love them to suffer for their selfishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dear Larry,</p>
	<p>I wish my comment can reach you as it had been a few months since you posted your essay and feedback. Recently, I have been thinking on what reactions and attitude Christians should hold against intimidation. You highlighted that intimidation exists among couple, boss and even between brothers and sisters. I had read some bible study materials about handling intimidation. As expected, it teaches people to forgive as God holds justice. I agree with <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NIV&amp;passage=1+Peter+2%3A15" title="Bible Gateway">1 Peter 2:15</a>, it says, ‘It is God’s will that your good lives should silence those who make foolish accusations against you.’ However, I got some reservation in applying another verse which is also from 1 Peter, 2:19, ‘For God is pleased with you when, for the sake of your conscience, you patiently endure unfair treatment.’ This seems to apply particularly to situation when the unfair treatment happens from those in authorities, as <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NIV&amp;passage=1+Peter+2%3A13" title="Bible Gateway">1 Peter 2:13</a> say, ‘For the Lord’s sake, accept all authority …and the officials he has appointed.’ I am not challenging the good teachings and intentions behind all those messages; however, I would like to discuss how Christians should respond when the intimidation is getting overwhelming and unlawful. Take an example, if a boss uses his authority to sexual harass his sub-ordinates, what should they react, assuming that they are Christians. Should they simply tolerate and keep silent? While thinking on this topic, I recall the story of Lincoln; he saw the injustice of the slavery system, so he spent lots of efforts to release them from their sufferings, if he kept quiet by showing respect to those in authorities, such historical redemption would never had happened. I am thinking if reporting intimidation that is already abusively overwhelming to the one higher in the hierarchy is against the teaching in the bible, could you share your view on it?</p>
	<p>Moreover, regarding your views upon practising homosexual lifestyle, I am quite sad to know that a recent movie called <acronym title="xxx">***</acronym> Mountain had won the best director award in Oscar. This triggered lots of praises, and surely promote the developing Gxx culture. Besides, I totally support your argument that one day they might regret their ‘choices’ if they die from AIDS. However, I do wonder if this high potential danger will stop them from practising that, lots of people know that smoking can cause lung cancer, but they don’t really care. Lastly, I am more concern about those that are bisexual, especially among Christians. In order to cover up their greed of having both sexual orientations, as it is normally not accepted in the Christian communities, a man will usually have a proper relationship or even a marriage with a girl. To me, that is the most selfish behaviour, as this will bring ‘unexpected’ punishment (AIDS) to the innocent, that do not made the same ‘choice’ as they did. In conclusion, I would expect those that cannot change their orientation for whatever reasons be at least honest. Don’t cheat! Don’t let those truly love them to suffer for their selfishness.
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		<title>by: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.esnider.net/2005/09/11/intimidation/#comment-262</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I  forgot to comment on the &quot;choices&quot; remark.  The choosing of the word &quot;choices&quot; in my entry should have been in quotes because those are not my words but my uncle's words.  

Participation in the homosexual lifestyle is not something someone is born with.  One may have leanings or preferences one way or the other but that is not acting on those leanings.  Choice comes in when a person chooses to engage in sex with another.  Let me say that is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; a homosexual only issue.  Sex is not essential to life the way breathing, eating and having shelter is concerned.  Sex is only essential to the continuation of the human race.  Sure, we find pleasure in that activity but that does not make it necessary for life in the USA or any other country and to say otherwise is show ignorance in the matter.

I believe that &quot;choice&quot; is an appropriate word in this case even if my uncle didn't say it because sometime in a person's life they will have to choose to have sex with another person.  To experience their &quot;first time&quot; with another person independent of gender, if you will.  The only exception to this is forcible rape, which is outside the scope of this discussion.  So, before someone actually has sex they have to choose to engage in the activity or not.  If someone chooses to have sex they have made their choice.  If they choose not to they have again made a choice.  I think the logic is very clear and does not in any way imply a phobia or bigotry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I  forgot to comment on the &#8220;choices&#8221; remark.  The choosing of the word &#8220;choices&#8221; in my entry should have been in quotes because those are not my words but my uncle&#8217;s words.  </p>
	<p>Participation in the homosexual lifestyle is not something someone is born with.  One may have leanings or preferences one way or the other but that is not acting on those leanings.  Choice comes in when a person chooses to engage in <acronym title="sex">***</acronym> with another.  Let me say that is <i>not</i> a homosexual only issue.  <acronym title="Sex">***</acronym> is not essential to life the way breathing, eating and having shelter is concerned.  <acronym title="Sex">***</acronym> is only essential to the continuation of the human race.  Sure, we find pleasure in that activity but that does not make it necessary for life in the USA or any other country and to say otherwise is show ignorance in the matter.</p>
	<p>I believe that &#8220;choice&#8221; is an appropriate word in this case even if my uncle didn&#8217;t say it because sometime in a person&#8217;s life they will have to choose to have <acronym title="sex">***</acronym> with another person.  To experience their &#8220;first time&#8221; with another person independent of gender, if you will.  The only exception to this is forcible rape, which is outside the scope of this discussion.  So, before someone actually has <acronym title="sex">***</acronym> they have to choose to engage in the activity or not.  If someone chooses to have <acronym title="sex">***</acronym> they have made their choice.  If they choose not to they have again made a choice.  I think the logic is very clear and does not in any way imply a phobia or bigotry.
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		<title>by: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.esnider.net/2005/09/11/intimidation/#comment-261</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have no doubt that my uncle's death was result of his participation in the gay scene in San Francisco during the 70s.  I also have no doubt that he was a practicing homosexual.  It is unclear to me how you got the idea that I was uncertain about my uncle's sexual preferences.  

I have always found is somewhat amusing that people will accuse others of being homophobic and a bigot just because they have a different view of the issue.  In a way, that's really no different what the two gay rights advocates are doing with the publishing of people's name, etc on the Internet.  To try to shame someone into believing the way another does is a rather hostile act.  Of course, with today's politically correct mentality, to which I do not subscribe, it is easy to discredit another with the label of intolerant homophobe.  Yet, by pointing your finger and exclaiming intolerance, you and others who believe the way you do are demonstrating your own lack of tolerance for my view point.  Thus, you discredit your own argument by your own argument.

As far as the filtering software goes, I cannot claim credit for it is only a WordPress plugin called &lt;a href=&quot;http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2004/12/1/polite-ifier-wp-plugin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Polite-ifier&lt;/a&gt;.  It doesn't censor but it does take a list of words and converts them, on the fly, to &lt;code&gt;&lt;acronym&gt;&lt;/code&gt; values.  I do this in case someone posts something that is not appropriate.  I do have some younger visitors (namely, my children).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have no doubt that my uncle&#8217;s death was result of his participation in the <acronym title="gay">***</acronym> scene in San Francisco during the 70s.  I also have no doubt that he was a practicing homosexual.  It is unclear to me how you got the idea that I was uncertain about my uncle&#8217;s sexual preferences.  </p>
	<p>I have always found is somewhat amusing that people will accuse others of being homophobic and a bigot just because they have a different view of the issue.  In a way, that&#8217;s really no different what the two <acronym title="gay">***</acronym> rights advocates are doing with the publishing of people&#8217;s name, etc on the Internet.  To try to shame someone into believing the way another does is a rather hostile act.  Of course, with today&#8217;s politically correct mentality, to which I do not subscribe, it is easy to discredit another with the label of intolerant homophobe.  Yet, by pointing your finger and exclaiming intolerance, you and others who believe the way you do are demonstrating your own lack of tolerance for my view point.  Thus, you discredit your own argument by your own argument.</p>
	<p>As far as the filtering software goes, I cannot claim credit for it is only a WordPress plugin called <a href="http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2004/12/1/polite-ifier-wp-plugin/" rel="nofollow">Polite-ifier</a>.  It doesn&#8217;t censor but it does take a list of words and converts them, on the fly, to <code><acronym></code> values.  I do this in case someone posts something that is not appropriate.  I do have some younger visitors (namely, my children).
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		<title>by: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.esnider.net/2005/09/11/intimidation/#comment-260</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Interesting - your site blocks the standardized alternate use of the word homosexual - the word beginning with &quot;g&quot; and ending in &quot;y&quot; with an &quot;a&quot; in the middle of it.  That's actually fairly cool software.  I'm impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Interesting - your site blocks the standardized alternate use of the word homosexual - the word beginning with &#8220;g&#8221; and ending in &#8220;y&#8221; with an &#8220;a&#8221; in the middle of it.  That&#8217;s actually fairly cool software.  I&#8217;m impressed.
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		<title>by: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.esnider.net/2005/09/11/intimidation/#comment-259</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Perhaps the decisions your uncle who died of AIDS made were those related to dangerously promiscuous behavior.  That you were unclear if he was gay or not is a subtle telling of your beliefs.  That you imply that being gay is a &quot;choice&quot; is a more blatant proclamation of your latent homophobia and bigotry.  I have to agree with you though on one point - gathering the names for publication of people who sign petitions is a gross attempt to intimidate and is always the wrong the to do.  Of course, that the men who are gathering those names for</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Perhaps the decisions your uncle who died of AIDS made were those related to dangerously promiscuous behavior.  That you were unclear if he was <acronym title="gay">***</acronym> or not is a subtle telling of your beliefs.  That you imply that being <acronym title="gay">***</acronym> is a &#8220;choice&#8221; is a more blatant proclamation of your latent homophobia and bigotry.  I have to agree with you though on one point - gathering the names for publication of people who sign petitions is a gross attempt to intimidate and is always the wrong the to do.  Of course, that the men who are gathering those names for
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